1 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:08,279 um 2 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,560 welcome back 3 00:00:34,239 --> 00:00:40,320 i'm very happy to be in canada 4 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,520 and my presence here proves that canada 5 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,840 remains a country governed by laws 6 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,079 not by here today gone tomorrow 7 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,800 politicians and their whims 8 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:52,879 and that justice counts in canada and 9 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,920 i'm very grateful to the honourable 10 00:00:52,879 --> 00:00:57,360 judge mosley for demonstrating that what 11 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,800 message do you have for the conservative 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,680 government 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,640 well 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,480 you know 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,360 it's a dangerous thing 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,040 that canada has become so isolated in 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,960 the world 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,119 that it has 19 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:13,600 allowed itself to become 20 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:17,520 basically an embassy for the 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,680 most extreme israeli political line 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,439 mr netanyahu has almost no friends in 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,439 the world including in the white house 24 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:25,439 but he sure has friends here 25 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,720 in canada and not many people can't 26 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:27,759 quite understand 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,479 why 28 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:32,880 um there seems no reason why 29 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:35,280 canada which was so widely respected 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,079 even loved in the world not so very long 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,320 ago 32 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:40,320 it should so identify over identify 33 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:43,280 itself by anybody's standards even a 34 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:44,479 conservatives standards over identify 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,040 itself with 36 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:48,960 really very extreme israeli politicians 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,799 what message do you or or what message 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,399 will you deliver to people tomorrow then 39 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:55,200 about your experience 40 00:01:52,399 --> 00:01:57,600 with what happened to you uh well first 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,520 i will talk about what happened to me 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,680 not just because i want to get off my 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,680 chest and but i do 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,200 this has been extremely 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,920 searing 46 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,040 uh 47 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,160 indeed 48 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,080 surreal experience for me to be sitting 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,239 for almost 25 years 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,040 in the british parliament whilst a 51 00:02:14,239 --> 00:02:19,920 commonwealth g7 country is declaring you 52 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,720 to be a security risk and a terrorist 53 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:23,280 is 54 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,200 is searing 55 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,840 and it has affected my life in many ways 56 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,720 which i shall adam bray at the meeting 57 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,480 tomorrow but much much more importantly 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,400 is what it means for you 59 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,280 and what it means for you as the 60 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,959 honorable judge said in his 60-page 61 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,120 judicial caning 62 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:42,720 of 63 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,080 jason kinney 64 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,000 is that 65 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,959 canada's laws 66 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,720 and anti-terrorism as a rubric 67 00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:51,680 is being used 68 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,160 to 69 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,680 suppress legitimate political debate 70 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,920 here in the country 71 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,920 and that's important in itself 72 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:02,080 if you believe in democratic values but 73 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:04,239 it's also important arguably more 74 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,400 important in that you will reach flawed 75 00:03:04,239 --> 00:03:08,480 conclusions as a country 76 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,840 if you don't hear all the legitimate 77 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,280 points of view 78 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:15,040 argued out in public in proper debate 79 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,080 and that's exactly what's happened 80 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,319 canada has reached a deeply flawed set 81 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,840 of foreign policy positions 82 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:25,360 and partly because it has set out to 83 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,519 criminalize 84 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,920 views which are widely shared in the 85 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:31,680 country and around the world and must be 86 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:32,959 heard i guess this not going to shut you 87 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,360 up then is it 88 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:37,680 no i mean the good thing is 89 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,120 that the as any bookseller could have 90 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,519 told them for free 91 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,360 the book you try to ban always ends up 92 00:03:41,519 --> 00:03:45,840 on the best seller list 93 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,000 and i expect that the audience for what 94 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:51,519 i have to say 95 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,840 tomorrow and indeed through the 96 00:03:51,519 --> 00:03:55,439 conduit of the media 97 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,239 will be far far larger than it ever 98 00:03:55,439 --> 00:04:00,239 would have been if mr kenny hadn't 99 00:03:58,239 --> 00:04:02,000 undertaken this foolish thing but he's 100 00:04:00,239 --> 00:04:04,080 cost the canadian taxpayer a pretty 101 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,799 penny and i don't suppose pennies are 102 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,840 that plentiful nowadays here or anywhere 103 00:04:06,799 --> 00:04:11,760 else 104 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,959 uh he's damaged canada's reputation as i 105 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,400 said at the press conference the other 106 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:16,079 day i don't know if it's because he's a 107 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,840 fool or a nave 108 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:20,160 i'm not sure which would be worse but i 109 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:23,120 am sure that canada deserves better than 110 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,639 that are you going after them yes i will 111 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,000 have a meeting with my 112 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:29,280 legal team barbara jackman i'm seeking 113 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,600 redress 114 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:35,600 for the damages that has been uh done 115 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,600 and 116 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,759 so this is not a final 117 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:43,160 round between me and 118 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:43,160 mr kenny 119 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,840 well i'll be talking to my legal team 120 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:48,880 about joshua avenues 121 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:51,120 exist 122 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,120 but 123 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,000 indeed one of them is behind me who may 124 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:01,199 very well want to 125 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,840 want to have a say on that 126 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:04,720 but one thing's for sure 127 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:07,520 i 128 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,560 have been defamed in a way 129 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,680 which 130 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:14,240 it's scarcely possible to exaggerate 131 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,280 i mean for a high-profile politician to 132 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,680 be 133 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:20,639 announced to the world as a terrorist 134 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:23,600 and a security threat 135 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:24,960 placed my life in danger i'm not being 136 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,800 melodramatic 137 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,919 there are crazy people 138 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,240 in the world 139 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:32,560 who if i really were the person jason 140 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,080 kenny painted me as 141 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,600 might have thought themselves fully 142 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,400 justified in 143 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,600 putting a bullet in me 144 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,600 and so 145 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,400 my life has been quite severely affected 146 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,360 in many ways as i say i shall run 147 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,520 through them 148 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,639 at the meeting tomorrow 149 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,280 and i 150 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:54,080 i'm seeking redress for that one way or 151 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:56,160 the other whether through defamation or 152 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,840 through some other form 153 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,680 of redress so 154 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:02,720 although mr kenny has already cost you 155 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,080 all a pretty penny it may very well turn 156 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,840 out to be 157 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,840 pretty more pennies too 158 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:14,080 well the officers were very courteous 159 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,319 uh but uh 160 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,240 the interview ranged rather 161 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:19,440 rather further than a normal uh 162 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,800 immigration 163 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,560 interview 164 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,240 would 165 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,720 they were interested in 166 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,520 my political analysis of many 167 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:32,720 international political situations which 168 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,560 was flattering but time consuming 169 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,680 and i was aware that uh there were 170 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,759 people outside waiting to uh hear me but 171 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:43,199 uh they were uh i i couldn't fault them 172 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:47,199 at all for courtesy and uh manners and 173 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:49,759 uh good old canadian efficiency so uh no 174 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:51,520 complaints 175 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:54,560 are you aware of the the work that 176 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,880 canadians have done to bring you back 177 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,400 not only am i aware of it i'm filled 178 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,680 with 179 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:03,599 gratitude and admiration for the 180 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,039 legal team for the 181 00:07:03,599 --> 00:07:07,919 political team 182 00:07:05,039 --> 00:07:08,800 for all those who have struggled for 18 183 00:07:07,919 --> 00:07:12,240 months 184 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,680 to get me back into the country 185 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,160 and 186 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,479 it's a great tribute to them that they 187 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,000 were not intimidated they were not 188 00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:21,840 terrorized 189 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,240 into believing 190 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,759 that they were somehow 191 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,680 on the side of a 192 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:30,880 a terrorist or a security threat 193 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,560 my 194 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,840 broader feeling though 195 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,400 is that 196 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,720 this visit will be at least tacitly 197 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,720 welcomed by far wider 198 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,639 sectors of canadian society than just 199 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,879 people who support me 200 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:46,479 because i think there is a feeling in 201 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:48,400 canada i get the impression that there 202 00:07:46,479 --> 00:07:50,319 is a feeling in canada that there's 203 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,440 something not quite right 204 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:53,039 about 205 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,800 continually banning 206 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:58,479 and excluding people 207 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,960 and thus attempting to push 208 00:07:58,479 --> 00:08:04,319 views which are against the views of the 209 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:06,960 government here into the margins to 210 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:08,639 criminalize them to marginalize them i 211 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,639 think most canadians whether they agree 212 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:12,560 with my political views or not just 213 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:14,080 instinctively know that that is wrong 214 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,000 and not a good thing 215 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:19,039 not a good place to be 216 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,360 so thank you to all the campaigners 217 00:08:19,039 --> 00:08:22,560 any more questions 218 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,120 what do you think about 219 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:27,440 the canadian media that was 220 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,520 delayed in responding to certain 221 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,599 documents 222 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,360 you know i i uh 223 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:34,880 i didn't know whether to laugh 224 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,320 or cry 225 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:41,200 when i read on my google alert all these 226 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,120 headlines popping up from right-wing 227 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,839 canadian newspapers 228 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,920 saying galloway has lost 229 00:08:45,839 --> 00:08:50,320 in the court 230 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,480 i must be charitable i suppose and say 231 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,360 they hadn't read the judgment 232 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,640 but if i've lost how come i'm standing 233 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,519 here 234 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:02,160 i'm standing here because i won 235 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:02,160 and i won 236 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,480 i won 237 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:16,000 i'm standing here because i won 238 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:18,399 and i won because canada still is a 239 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,600 country governed by laws that has a 240 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:23,120 judiciary 241 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,560 that will not be bullied or cowed 242 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,880 or terrorized 243 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:28,240 into rubber stamping 244 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,480 the decisions 245 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,640 the caprice the whim 246 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,120 of here today and gone tomorrow 247 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,720 politicians and i must tell you you're 248 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,800 very lucky to have that 249 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,240 not many countries in the world have 250 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,920 such a judiciary we do and you do 251 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,480 and that's maybe one of the things that 252 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,680 makes us close 253 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,000 any others 254 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:51,000 sorry um 255 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,320 oh